bironic: Neil Perry gazing out a window at night (wilson embarrassed)
bironic ([personal profile] bironic) wrote2007-08-23 09:59 am
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Plagiarism is bad, kids. Not to mention stupid when you do it online.

Heads up, Housefic writers: [livejournal.com profile] awwsugah has been reposting other people's stories on her MySpace and passing them off as her own. She's got stuff by [livejournal.com profile] daasgrrl, [livejournal.com profile] cryptictac, [livejournal.com profile] maineac, [livejournal.com profile] isagel, [livejournal.com profile] soundship, [livejournal.com profile] evila_elf, [livejournal.com profile] genagirl, [livejournal.com profile] jaryn_, [livejournal.com profile] elynittria, [livejournal.com profile] sam_storyteller, and others. (Not me, though. I guess my stuff isn't good enough. Heh.) See cryptictac's post for an in-progress roundup.

ETA: Example, now that the blog has been locked:



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Thank you to [livejournal.com profile] thewlisian_afer for the alert.
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[personal profile] bell 2007-08-23 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
W, why WOULD YOU DO THAT? D:

I've never really read [livejournal.com profile] assugah's works before, but I recognize her name from around and, if you're somewhat high profile, copying off fic-- FAMOUS fic-- is even dumber.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember when she first came on the LJ scene with a bunch of short, fluffy ficlets, and I think she's active in the RP community.

if you're somewhat high profile, copying off fic-- FAMOUS fic-- is even dumber

Honestly! As if plagiarizing weren't stupid enough, why do it to people in your own community? Or, if she posted those copied fics before she joined LJ fandom, why leave them up there? Gah.

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[identity profile] pwcorgigirl.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the heads-up. And I wonder if it wasn't noticed sooner because anyone would go blind in a hurry reading in that layout? Still, jeeze. That's just astonishing.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha. Yes, not too easy on the eyes -- although the blog's locked now, so not everyone will get to enjoy the view for themselves.

I was surprised not to see any of your work on there (unless I didn't recognize it), or Mer's or Nightdog's.

It is astonishing -- one wonders why, when she became involved in LJ fandom, she didn't delete those plagiarized posts. Nobody would have been the wiser.

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[identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
(Not me, though. I guess my stuff isn't good enough. Heh.)

Me neither, apparently. Hee!

In other news -- holy crap.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, that about sums it up. It's just plain idiotic, not to mention rude, to plagiarize fics not only from people in your community but also from people you've friended and who have friended you back, as if someone isn't going to notice.

Me neither, apparently. Hee!

*g* See above comment to Corgigirl. Do you feel left out?

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[identity profile] rivers-bend.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe when she came to lj and started making friends with the people she did this to that she didn't dump the evidence. Maybe she hoped if she pretended it hadn't happened, it would go away?

It's kind of shocking to be reminded that not only can this happen, it does.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I don't get why she didn't "dispose of the evidence" either (and asked her so in her response (awwsugah.livejournal.com/126858.html)). In her post, Awwsugah said she stopped blogging the stolen stories after she joined LJ fandom, but I also asked Cryptictac if she remembers the dates working out like that, because I'm very curious.

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[identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't get plagiarized either. *sobs*
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
There should be a club for people who never get plagiarized. What are we doing wrong???

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[identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
PS. Didn't Mer run across a plagiarist of her work a few months back? Could it have been awwsugah? Creepy.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, she and [livejournal.com profile] firestorm717 had their work stolen and repackaged as a single (disjointed) story on an outside website by a young man who also had an LJ. I do not believe it was the same person, though.

[identity profile] mer-duff.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't awwsugah - it was some delusional kid in the Prairies. He never did reply directly to my emails or acknowledge what he did, but he did eventually remove the material from the website once I posted a comment on his LJ. Not to excuse what awwsugah did, and perhaps it's just lip service, but at least she recognises that she did something seriously wrong.

So I guess technically I don't get to join the club, but can I be a member for this incident?




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[identity profile] stephantom.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, this is very, very weird. I mean, you hear about ridiculous fucktards on LJ all the time, but they're just anonymous fucktards. [livejournal.com profile] awwsugah and I have become pretty good friends in the past six months or so. So, uh, this is just bizzarre. Meh.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
That must be strange indeed. I've just read your comment to her second post and found it very eloquent and level-headed. I don't/didn't know her well at all, so it's perhaps easier for me to condemn her for what she did.

[identity profile] pun.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I feel so left out!
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
We're starting a club. Here, have a badge!

[identity profile] topaz-eyes.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*blinks*

Uhm. Thanks for the heads-up. I just found out about [livejournal.com profile] awwsugah's plagiarizing of [livejournal.com profile] cryptictac's work.

Small correction: Esse's (aka [livejournal.com profile] paradise_city story "A Love Restrained" was plagiarized, not mine. Either way, it still sucks. It appears [livejournal.com profile] awwsugah took older (2005-early 2006) House fics.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Fix'd. It does sucketh mightily, indeed, and the whole situation is very strange, including Awwsugah's two overly dramatic replies. 'Twill be interesting to see how it all plays out. At the very least, I hope it serves as a warning to others who may have been considering or already committing plagiarism within fandom.

[identity profile] elynittria.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel kind of sorry for her, although I don't know her personally (or virtually personally, I suppose I should say). It's obvious that she's young and troubled, and she's really being dumped on (quite nastily at times) by people who are only peripherally affected by her actions. I'm definitely not saying that plagiarism is right or should be excused, but it would be nice if people were kinder to each other and tried to understand and forgive.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-23 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that some of those comments were very nasty (I hope mine came across more measured than hurtful), unnecessarily so, even considering the nature of her transgression and the fact that there's really only peer disapproval as punishment. Your reply was very gracious and respectful. Forgiveness is a good thing, but people need to learn that there are better ways to deal with loneliness etc. than taking someone else's work and pretending it's their own.

[identity profile] purridot.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
reposted A THIRD TIME b/c typing one-handed is impossible for me

It was interesting to compare side by side [livejournal.com profile] elynnitria's original and the other, ah, version, to see how some of the more intricate language has been altered, precious imagery added, and slashiness grafted on. There is no other word but "bizarre"...
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, no problem -- injury, or multitasking?

You know, I hadn't even done that; I'd assumed from some of the other stories that it had been reposted verbatim. Will check it out.

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[identity profile] jdr1184.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Not me, though. I guess my stuff isn't good enough. Heh.
Awwww, I totally steal your work, bironic . If you, know, I didn't have morals. Stupid morals. :0) I feel sort of strange about the whole thing since I like her RPGing, but I also used one of her stories for a MST. Mostly, I just feel sorry for her. I'd hate to be that pathetic.
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[identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com 2007-08-24 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Several people have mentioned here and elsewhere that they enjoy her RPs and would be sorry to see her stop. It's truly odd that someone would plagiarize when she's not half bad at writing. I mean, I can imagine why, and she's tried to explain herself, but still. Copying should be for the hopeless, not the reasonably talented.

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