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I find myself going back to reference these pieces by Film Crit Hulk often enough to want to bookmark them somewhere. Why not where friends might also find them interesting if they haven't read them already?

Archive, 2012 and back

(list likely to grow)

Date: Aug. 30th, 2014 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roga.livejournal.com
I have not read Film Crit Hulk for the longest time; thank you for reminding me of their existence! *bookmarks*

Date: Aug. 30th, 2014 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com
I remember seeing these linked somewhere a while back, but I was having a low attention span day and back-clicked at the ALL CAPS. Thank you for linking them again; I might never have read them otherwise, and would have missed the many interesting points they raise.

The point that's hitting home right now is the advice to try and find what is interesting about a given work, and to find out what it is that works about movies other people liked that you didn't. I recognize that as what my favorite reviewers/fan commentators do, but I find it so much easier to pinpoint the things that don't work for me and why they fail. I know I'm not the only one -- Tarantino's advice reflects that sentiment, and Film Crit Hulk's own reviews do too. I remember being disappointed a while back in a (not very good) film review that explained how films the author hadn't liked failed to meet criteria they considered necessary for a good movie without explaining how the films the author referenced as good movies met those criteria. I wish Film Crit Hulk had taken the time to explain how specific good movies answered the seven questions brought up in the Man of Steel review and to demonstrate that being able to answer these questions meaningfully was close enough to a universal for good films (or good films of the type Man of Steel was trying to be) that failure to answer them was a crucial error.

Date: Aug. 30th, 2014 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com
BTW, I just learned how to change all-caps to all lowercase in Firefox and Chrome. Right-click on the page, select "Inspect Element", then navigate to the <body> html tag and insert the attribute style="text-transform:lowercase".

Date: Sep. 2nd, 2014 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
*copies these down*

Date: Sep. 2nd, 2014 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com
Film Crit Hulk is probably my favorite thinker on storytelling. I highly recommend his book, if you haven't read it yet.

Date: Sep. 2nd, 2014 07:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] grammarwoman
Sweet jeebus, that is one handy trick, and something that will definitely help in reading these posts. Thank you!

And thank you [livejournal.com profile] bironic for constructing this list in the first place. :)

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 01:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Excellent. Glad to have reminded!

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
WHERE WERE YOU EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN I READ ALL THOSE ALL-CAPS UNTIL I WANTED TO CLAW MY EYES OUT?

*ahem* Thank you for the tip, for all the articles over there I have yet to read. So, so very much.

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 01:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
In the handful of articles I've read to date, Film Crit Hulk has articulated a lot of what I liked and what was bothering me about particular films or categories of films, has had illuminating things to say about aspects of filmmaking and narrative construction that aren't necessarily apparent to non-professionals, and has also begun to teach me to be more generous toward what films are doing well on a functional level. Like when I watched The Pacifier last night and could appreciate it for what it was and for having clearly drawn characters with a plot that was easy to follow, and understanding that that can be enough to call it a "good movie" even if it can also be labeled "dumb" or derided for not being a different kind of movie.

Anyway. I haven't checked out the book, but it sounds intriguing, especially since it seems the discussion also applies to writing other than screenwriting. Maybe the local library network has a copy.

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 01:36 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Sure! Hope you find stuff to enjoy over there. As an avid movie fan it's been fun, enlightening and thought-provoking to poke around in the archives.

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 01:54 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Fair request. Maybe the article was already so long that thoroughly laying out one or more good examples would have been too much of a diversion? Or maybe the brief discussion toward the end about the Fast & Furious franchise etc. was meant to accomplish that? Maybe it was in an earlier post somewhere?

I am struggling right now with the movie logic and plot holes essay, because I like my movies to work on a dramatic level while also making sense (both at the time and afterwards on reflection). I am a nitpicker. The essay has got me thinking about whether that is a flawed or immature approach to movie criticism, and even if not, has strengthened the argument that it is at least an incomplete approach, or one level of critique among many. It was perfect that FCH used Christopher Nolan as a case study of a filmmaker who makes movies work while you're watching the first time, because Inception was a prime example of a movie where I felt swept along in a current purposefully made swift enough that I couldn't take the time to question the rules he was throwing down, and then felt cheated both during the movie at especially egregious principles (like that time is a constant in dreams) and afterwards at all the ways it didn't make sense. FCH's point that getting swept along in the action is a feature, not a bug, is an interesting one. That it's not a cheat, it's an achievement in storytelling. Although what may have hit home more is the point that when balancing all the elements of a film, character and narrative trump logic. I've encountered and learned to understand the need for that tradeoff when it comes to balancing science/medicine and character/narrative in film and TV, so maybe I'm primed to learn this new angle on the same lesson.

Still: Part of me resents being advised not to nitpick. :)

Date: Sep. 3rd, 2014 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com
Not nitpicking is such an unfannish way to respond to media. ;)

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