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Life continues. Am in love with my new GP (we talked X-Files and fanfic and why I'm not in medical school, he's lovely to look at, and naturally he is married with a newborn). Still equate my mother's choice of hangouts/company with torture. Weekend approaching.

Couple of dream things I wanted to share.

In Tuesday night's we were in London at a Tube station I knew well (though it doesn't exist in reality). My sister dropped something on the down-escalator that fell onto the up-escalator, and when we reached the bottom I caught the eye of a young man, blond, late 20's, and asked him if he could pick up the objects and pass them down to us. He did, and, handing them to me, asked if he could give me his phone number as well. "Yeah-heh!" I replied (entirely unsure how to spell that to reflect the sound of the word dragged out in surprised delight). Then, looking amused, he chastised me for sounding so desperate.

(Apparently the escalator wasn't moving very fast.)

Last night's wouldn't have warranted mention except for one part near the end. At the beginning of the relevant bit, there was some kind of anti-feminist gang we were resisting in a room full of grungy shower stalls, culminating in a fight where I turned someone's gun against himself, threatened to pull the trigger and scoffed at their assurance that my prints would incriminate me, showing them the blank pads of my fingers – there was an elevator, seen from behind – and then on a cement ledge many stories up in an indoor courtyard (like in tall hotels with open atria), Harry Potter and Wilson were sitting, talking to each other. Wilson was leaning pretty close, looking amorous, and then he leaned in even more and made to kiss Harry, who started backwards and let out a sort of yelp. Wilson sat up straight and both of them looked embarrassed.

Wilson/Harry. Wilson/Harry. Does that pairing even exist?

Date: Feb. 9th, 2006 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synn.livejournal.com

Wilson/Harry. Wilson/Harry. Does that pairing even exist?

God, I hope not.

Date: Feb. 9th, 2006 07:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
It didn't come up on LJseek or interest search or on a search engine when I put the phrase in quotes. So perhaps it is true.

Eugh.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
Well it now exists IN MY BRAIN, thank you very much. ;)

Seriously, it's not so bad. I've seen worse. (Shudders at repressed memories of fanfiction.net horror stories.) The main problem, I think, would be that Wilson would indulge all Harry's whinging and flouncing and sulking, and if he did come out with the occasional sarcastic barb, it would probably go straight over Harry's head.

Okay, I cannot believe I've already got them in couples' therapy.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 02:15 pm (UTC)
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It's just so ... degrading for Wilson, and like you said, Harry wouldn't have half a clue what the other half is all about. Clearly Wilson would only do it after being overlooked, again, by House.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
Clearly Wilson would only do it after being overlooked, again, by House.

But of course. ;)

HOUSE, on the other hand, could put Harry in his place - ohgodnoIdidnotjustthinkthatbrainstopARRRRRGH!

Ahem.

Sorry.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
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It's okay; one of the first things I thought when I woke up was, "Wilson should have gone for Hermione instead."

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
Hell yes - Hermione needs someone she can respect, not someone she can mother. I can just picture her and Ron in twenty years, and it's a very sad image: Hermione bitter because her husband only ever greeted her accomplishments with a grudging, sarcastic admiration, and she felt like she had to fight him all the way, and Ron resentful because, deep down, he knows his wife doesn't respect him and feels jealous, not only of her abilities, but of the time she gives her work and the colleagues who get all her attention and admiration.

As you can tell, I feel rather disappointed in that relationship, but whether it's in Rowling or in Hermione, I'm not sure.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 03:31 pm (UTC)
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I think Rowling's perception of Hermione and everyone else's perception of Hermione are ... not quite the same. I'm with you on the eventual decomposition of their relationship. Of course, that could be the old summers' worth of Snape/ and Remus/Hermione fic talking.

Hermione would give Wilson a run for his money, that's for sure -- if not reverse his pattern of dysfunctional marriages and womanizing, then at least she'd be out of the house (researching?) as often as he lingers at the hospital, and indulging her suspiciously close relationships with Harry and Ron as much as he hangs around House.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
I think Rowling's perception of Hermione and everyone else's perception of Hermione are ... not quite the same.

It's interesting, too, because - and I swore I wouldn't psychoanalyse female authors anymore, but it's difficult to resist! - because she's said so many times that Hermione is basically her at a younger age. And she short-changes Hermione so often. Perhaps that part of herself embarrasses her? Perhaps she's overly conscious of creating a Mary-Sue-esque avatar, and so Hermione has to make do with Ron, while a girl who is AS FAR FROM HERMIONE AS POSSIBLE gets Harry? On the other hand, perhaps we nerd-chic fangirls are the ones reading too much into the character of Hermione, and trying to make her more admirable or interesting than she is... but somehow, I don't think so. I'm continually astonished at Rowling's ability to dismiss her own most fascinating characters.

*grins at the idea of the Hermione/Wilson discreetly open relationship, just because they would be so sensible about it - shades of "Every Rose Has Its Thorn: The Care of Magical Creatures".*

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC)
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On the other hand, perhaps we nerd-chic fangirls are the ones reading too much into the character of Hermione, and trying to make her more admirable or interesting than she is...

I suspect it is the nerd-fangirls reading something into Hermione that may not be there, but maybe it isn't "too much" or "more interesting" so much as a natural extrapolation based on what we see in ourselves and what of ourselves we want to see in her, whereas Rowling sees a different girl than we do behind the words on the page. Not malicious or deliberately rewriting so much as differing interpretations based on what are nearly caricatures.

shades of "Every Rose Has Its Thorn: The Care of Magical Creatures"

Yes, it could work that way, ideally, unless Wilson panicked at the thought of having a wife who could stand up to him instead of giving up or shutting him out (as Julie seems to be doing). Boy, can I hardly wait for her to show up on the series (please, screenwriters, please?).

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catilinarian.livejournal.com
Not malicious or deliberately rewriting so much as differing interpretations based on what are nearly caricatures.

Yes, I agree; perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "trying" when describing how we interpret Hermione, because I don't think the readers are deliberately changing her character. More naturally seeing what you want to see, perhaps - for both author and readers.

I'm sure I'm not the first person to have said this, but perhaps that's part of what's so oddly appealing about HP as a fandom - the fact that the characters are almost caricatures/archetypes, and at the same time, flexible enough (often because we see so little of the lives of the really interesting characters, like the Marauders, Snape, and Tom Riddle, so there's room to fill in the gaps) to take a variety of interpretations without those interpretations seeming off-the-wall.

Date: Feb. 10th, 2006 05:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Yes, some of the fic writers who responded to the survey said they were grateful for the sketchy characterization because it left so much room for them to work. Others were irritated by it and said that that annoyance fuelled their writing (especially when JKR continued in her direction with the character when they had gone in a different one), or that they wrote in spite of it.

Date: Feb. 11th, 2006 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] synn.livejournal.com
http://nasturtium.livejournal.com/114889.html
just because I happened by it, while looking for wilson/potter slash b/c I *Know* it exists.
http://community.livejournal.com/crossover_hp/29675.html#cutid2
has several house/hp crossover challenges that have been accepted, and a couple pairings - including hermione/House and, wait for it, Wilson/Snape.

The simple fact is, if there isn't yet a written Wilson/Harry fic, there will be in short order.

Date: Feb. 11th, 2006 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Victoria P. has done at least one Firefly/HP crossover recently, too, with a link off her livejournal. (http://musesfool.livejournal.com/)

Re: second link, phew! Must check out some of those stories soon. Looks like fun!

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