Title: Masters of War (Pegasus Rising Remix)
Fandom: Stargate: Atlantis
Characters: Ensemble Atlantis team; members of many Pegasus Galaxy cultures
Rating: PG-13
Length: 4:02
Music: "Masters of War" by Bob Dylan (edited)
Summary: The Atlanteans came, they explored, they destroyed lives and families and whole civilizations. The people of Pegasus have had enough.
Physical/content warnings: Themes of imperialism. Potentially disturbing image of bodies at 2:00.
Thanks: To a group of friends for their encouragement and feedback on an earlier draft when I wasn't sure if it was dragging; and to kassrachel and deelaundry for beta and for saying it was good enough to send to Vividcon.
Notes: This vid took three years and two rebuilds to put together. It was actually one of the first vid ideas I ever had and among the first I started making. It would have been less agonizing to give up, but the vid had something to say, and I wanted it to be able to say it. It's not a new idea in SGA fandom, but I don't think I've seen it in vid form before.
Anyway, I'm happy with how this turned out. I hope you like it, too.
Streaming on Vimeo | Download MP4 (40 MB) and srt file
Lyrics (edited):
Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther when the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water that runs down my drain
You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you sit back and watch
While the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
While the young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies and is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood that runs in your veins
How much do I know
Not to talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never forgive what you do
And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I'll follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead.
Comments and concrit are always welcome.
x-posted to vidding (LJ), vidding (DW), atlantis_vids and sga_noticeboard
This vid has also shown at: WisCon 37 ("Crafting Narratives of Speculation and Resistance" vidshow)
Fandom: Stargate: Atlantis
Characters: Ensemble Atlantis team; members of many Pegasus Galaxy cultures
Rating: PG-13
Length: 4:02
Music: "Masters of War" by Bob Dylan (edited)
Summary: The Atlanteans came, they explored, they destroyed lives and families and whole civilizations. The people of Pegasus have had enough.
Physical/content warnings: Themes of imperialism. Potentially disturbing image of bodies at 2:00.
Thanks: To a group of friends for their encouragement and feedback on an earlier draft when I wasn't sure if it was dragging; and to kassrachel and deelaundry for beta and for saying it was good enough to send to Vividcon.
Notes: This vid took three years and two rebuilds to put together. It was actually one of the first vid ideas I ever had and among the first I started making. It would have been less agonizing to give up, but the vid had something to say, and I wanted it to be able to say it. It's not a new idea in SGA fandom, but I don't think I've seen it in vid form before.
Anyway, I'm happy with how this turned out. I hope you like it, too.
Streaming on Vimeo | Download MP4 (40 MB) and srt file
Masters of War (Pegasus Rising Remix) from bironic on Vimeo.
Lyrics (edited):
Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know I can see through your masks
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther when the fast bullets fly
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water that runs down my drain
You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you sit back and watch
While the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
While the young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies and is buried in the mud
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood that runs in your veins
How much do I know
Not to talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never forgive what you do
And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I'll follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead.
Comments and concrit are always welcome.
x-posted to vidding (LJ), vidding (DW), atlantis_vids and sga_noticeboard
This vid has also shown at: WisCon 37 ("Crafting Narratives of Speculation and Resistance" vidshow)
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Date: Aug. 16th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)It's also been fascinating to see people react to strongly and/or viscerally to the argument in vid form. Maybe that's something I should have anticipated? But I vid analytically so I'm never sure what sort of emotional impact a project will actually have, and this one had me especially nervous because of the music choice and because I'd been working on it for so long. Watching it in a room full of people after a two-month break was the first time I'd felt its potential power since the early stages.
ANYWAY. Thank you again. I'm so glad the vid worked for you.
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Date: Aug. 12th, 2012 04:52 pm (UTC)This is so, so true. Our affection for the characters causes us to overlook/forgive their arrogance.
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Date: Aug. 16th, 2012 09:52 pm (UTC)"Our hero, ladies and gentlemen."
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Date: Aug. 12th, 2012 10:03 pm (UTC)In yours, the narrative feels more intimately personal, immediate, and often from the outsiders'/non-expedition members' POV, while Open Secrets feels more sweeping or remote/at one (journalistic or historical) remove -- perhaps as if it's the "unauthorized" not so hagiographic biography of the expedition and its members and choices afterwards. The intimately personal vs. more sweeping or political thing can probably be brought back in part to that kind of difference between the songs, and the choices and treatment of footage they inspired (lots of extreme close-ups in yours vs. fewer and many more steadicam and CGI/"crane" shots in Open Secrets, etc.).
Anyhow, great work, great vid which I'll be rewatching regularly right along with Open Secrets, and it inspired thoughts and feelings in me.
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Date: Aug. 16th, 2012 09:53 pm (UTC)I wish Open Secrets were still online; I'd like to watch it again now.
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Date: Aug. 12th, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC)So relentless, to quote semielliptical above me.
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Date: Aug. 13th, 2012 12:00 am (UTC)I'm thinking what if a show like Atlantis was told from the point of view of all those other cultures. And woah.
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