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We had a little Stargate party last night and sort of chattered over the episode, so I'm watching it again this morning to catch everything.



So John notices that Teyla hasn't been feeling well, but is clueless about her pregnancy. Ronon seems better attuned to her, even if he doesn't know the real reason behind her sickness either.

Colonel v. Colonel. Why did they beam down in a face-off like that? No, better – Colonel ^ 4. Watch out; Rodney's getting ideas. No, John is. "We'll make it worth your while" indeed.

"Why don't you come into my office, we'll get you briefed." Or debriefed. Ha ha ha. Ha.

Poor Rodney! Ellis has a point that this isn't the time for a scientific lecture on how the Replicator code functions, no matter how useful it is for the scientists to know everything they can so they can defeat them, because they're standing in a military briefing deciding which plan to use right now and Rodney doesn't have anything ready like he'd probably been asked to. And it's funny to watch Rodney's lecturing style and picture him in front of a class or at one of his thesis defenses, leaving his audience alternately comatose, flabbergasted and angry. But at the same time, what he's telling them *is* incredibly useful information, and if he could get his points across to the guys with the guns, maybe they'll understand the (better) strategies possible later and hold off a little while.

"Rodney." Aw, John's trying to protect him from Ellis even though he's bored and frustrated too because he also understands that there's no plan.

Still: "like a man"? That's low.

I'm glad Carter chewed Ellis out for speaking to Rodney like that, and I understand why she didn't undermine his authority while Rodney was still in the room, but I'm sad that Rodney won't know the others stood up for him.

I have to say, I identify a little too much with the fact that Rodney thinks they can have this thing done in 10 hours when it actually ends up taking more than a week.

Wraith bored by Rodney's tales of heroics = hiliarous.

Wraith threatening to feed on Rodney = way more effective and believable than Mitchell threatening him with a lemon.

No restraints, either. And he and Rodney seem to be working together more efficiently. Something shifted after "Miller's Crossing." Even though the guy's looking ragged again. (You can see it in his eyes: So... hungry... Just a little snack... He looks so tasty...)

Okay, start the countdown towards Ellis/McKay non-con fic as Ellis punishes him for not yet having come up with a viable plan.

"One week later"?! What was the point of having the opening scenes, then, instead of clumsily doing them as a recap in the first few seconds like they did for the rest of the backstory? They could certainly have used the extra few minutes to smooth out some of the rest of the pacing.

I like the progression of the framing in this scene where they're gathered in Carter's office with Ellis on the screen: first, everyone, to establish who's in the conversation; then Sam and Rodney, the two people who know the most about the science, foreshadowing Rodney's "we are geniuses" later on; Caldwell and Sam, negotiating military strategy for the safety of Atlantis and Pegasus; Caldwell and Ellis, the two visiting ship commanders, working together to take out the enemy; Sam, Rodney and John, Team Atlantis; and everyone again, right at the moment Ellis says it's time to implement Rodney's plan, which will require everyone's cooperation to pull off. Neat.

"Ingeniouser. Yes, I know that's not a word." Sheppard's wearing off on him, I think. And it was in the Replicatory-related context of "Progeny," too.

Where's Rodney's team? If this project is so critical, why is it just him and the Wraith working on it?

"I think I just got my first good idea in three weeks." Oh, Rodney! So this is what you look like in a slump. And now your wavy hands and happy smile are back, so we know you've got something.

"They just collapsed in a pile of dust, right?"
"We're familiar with the technology, yes."
The clunky exposition, it hurts.

"We dial up their attraction to one another." Oh, Rodney. You really haven't been getting any lately, have you.

The plan: Induce an atomic Replicator orgy!

"What do we do with the blob, then?" ...I have no commentary on that other than it is an awesome line.

Wait, they're seriously considering this plan?

"How long?"
"Oh, I hate to speculate."
"Since when?"
Since a lot of times, John, but how about the last time you tried to make McKay speculate on the Replicators' recovery time, say, in "Progeny," when he finally had to give you an arbitrary number so you'd shut up?

"...rendering them essentially inert." Or impotent, if you will. Someone needs to take McKay to bed ASAP so he can let up on the innuendo.

"You're talking about neutron-star levels of density."
"Precisely."
"Hey. It sounds crazy, but this could work."
What? Creating an unpredictable, uncontrollable, highly dense mass is a good idea? They could accidentally implode a huge region of space.

Ta daaa! Magically appearing Ancient Replicator lab table allowing us to carry out this increasingly improbable plan.

First, "that makes seven." And then, "This brings the odds down two to one." Sheppard, your math astounds us.

Yay alliances. Ronon continues to be Ronon, pleasingly, training his blaster and his eyes on the Wraith every second. John's more willing to take chances, even though both he and the Wraith know they could double-cross or be double-crossed at any turn.

Oh, look, it's Teyla.

They're not so good with the trust at all on this show. Not like Star Trek, where alliances were forged on trust, however naively on the Federation's part, and everyone was surprised and/or disappointed when the other culture failed them. DS9 got better with that towards the end of the series. I wish SGA could make things more complicated, and let the other partners come through in the end sometimes, like that.

Rodney: *works works works*
Peanut Gallery Zelenka: *watches with arms crossed*

"Well, you have been in a bit of a rut lately. [...] Okay, a dry spell." Ha. So everyone else diagnosed sexual frustration, too.

Aww, Rodney finally got it up but couldn't keep it up. Zelenka pities him.

Rodney coaxing the nanite puddle reminds me of when Odo took care of the baby changeling in "The Begotten" (DS9 again). Cute.

Oh, look, John's on his back. "Be calm," the Wraith says—and John obeys. And we've got some serious dom/sub camera angles going on. And John's hand is resting high up on his thigh. "Many of our ships are without queens"—want to be one, Sheppard? Heh. Whoa, way up that thigh. Loving this scene.

"We had to stun him several times." [leer]

"I thought it would be best if you woke up first." I still love this guy's sense of humor.

"Anything else happen while we were unconscious that I should know about?" Like, I dunno, did we get it on? Was it just you, or did you pass us around to all your faceless buddies too? Look, I'm not mad, I just wish I could've been awake for it wanna know if there's any possibility I might be knocked up need to know if I should go see Keller first thing when we get back. [I wish the camera hadn't cut away as he stood up, because maybe he winced in a suggestive way.]

"And why didn't those hives destroy your puny little ship?"
"I take great offense to that."
The insinuations, they just keep on coming.

Love how when Larrin gives the order to "kill it," Sheppard steps in front of the Wraith, the Wraith throws up an arm (like that'll help), and Ronon just gets the hell out of the way.

Annnnnd Sheppard's in bondage again.

And now Larrin and Sheppard are discussing how McKay's going to be sucking the Replicators down. *facepalm*

Hee, and he can't resist glancing down at her cleavage when she bends over him. I'm surprised she didn't straddle him. Maybe afterwards, when she came back to untie him.

It's weird, what a big and fragmented place the Pegasus galaxy must be, that while everybody knows about the Wraith, there's this ragtag group of fighters large enough to have a governing council but they've only run into the Lanteans twice, and they in turn don't know about the Replicators. (Also, it would've been cool if Sheppard had thought to seek out Larrin's people to aid in the fight, instead of the writers cooking up this semi-coincidental meet-up. I know they don't have a reliable method of contacting each other, but the Atlanteans could've put word out on each planet they visit that they wanted to contact... just saying, there could've been a way.)

"If we do this, we go all the way. No holding back." And Sheppard gulps. A little terror, a little arousal: it's John in love.

HaHA, Rodney called them Replicants.

Explain to me how it's simpler to create a person instead of a cube, when Zelenka said the cube was already difficult because McKay was working with cells stripped of their ... capabilities ... in order to ... get them to work the way he needed them to?

Happy sigh. The pregnancy confession/announcement. Teyla didn't want to tell them yet—John reacted poorly—Ronon didn't have to be the one to take her off duty, so he could be supportive. Poor Teyla, worried about what the stunner might have done, getting yelled at, and being relieved of offworld privileges, being denied the ability to stay active and useful (which isn't to say John didn't have a point). Poor John, finding out like this, hurt that Teyla didn't tell him, furious and guilty that he put her in danger. His voice going all low and hoarse—stuttering—oh. He didn't handle that well at all, snapping and punishing and stalking away—leaving out all the things Ronon then did—the congratulations and support. Not that it's a bad thing; I like that John reacted badly, didn't know what to do, continued to be awkward around her / around people, went straight to that place where he's assessing dangers and trying to protect his loved ones. Plus, it's the show's job to create conflicts like that. It's part of what fans love to fix.

"So that brings the grand total to..."
"Fourteen."
John Sheppard, Mensa candidate, ladies and gentlemen.

"This is not what we talked about, Rodney!" LOL. If only Zelenka hadn't left him alone in the lab, this never might have happened. Except it still would've, because when does McKay ever listen to anyone? Zelenka would've stood there with those crossed arms and that disapproving look and watched him do it.

I repeat: how is creating a functioning humanoid with consciousness and adaptability easier than making a cube? Was it that the Replicator bodies were already programmed into the magic Ancient table, so he just went in and took out some functions?

Rodney, you're disappointing me right now. It's not alive, its consciousness is just a bunch of ones and zeroes? Didn't you grow up on sci fi stuff, populated with androids and robots striving to be humans? I thought better of you. I thought you, like many of the scientists, would hold progressive views on the possibilities of artificial intelligence.

Love the representatives of the allies around the conference table: Larrin and the Wraith. I want this scene mirrored later in the season with even more unlikely people/beings.

"We're not trusting it. We're trusting—Rodney." A twist on "Trinity"—go in hoping he can blow up a planet.

"None of my guys can fire them quite like you can."
Carter: *eyebrow raise*
Sheppard: *smirk*
Larrin: *hard stare*
Sheppard: *squirms*

Oh, Sheppard, still irked when people get to name things before he does.

"It noticed that Zelenka and I had names, and she asked for one, so." 'And then she asked why her body looked different from ours and the Marines', so we... well, um, yes. Anyways...'

Yay alliance! I'm still flashing back to DS9, the Dominion-crushing armada of Starfleet and Klingon and Romulan and Ferengi and I don't even remember who else, but a bunch.

They really, really need a new shot of the Daedalus in hyperspace.

"We should never have given it speech." Um. That's shockingly misogynistic, even for this show.

"You need to get with Ronon and the Marines." Colonel Ellis, slashy matchmaker.

Yay Ronon commanding Atlantean soldiers.

Space battle! Look at all the pretty, different ships! No, don't blow up the Wraith we like!

Ellis, you jackass.

"Nothing to concern your pretty little head with." Oh, Larrin. Oh, gender role swap.

Oh, Sheppard trying to get her phone number. She can kick his ass, she's tied him up, she wears black leather, she won't take his crap, she doesn't trust him and he can't trust her. He's totally in love and doesn't know what to do with it.

"Good seeing you again." "Bet it was." ♥ I have issues with Larrin's character including what they've dressed her in, but I do enjoy watching her one-up Sheppard on a regular basis.

"You out of your dry spell."
"Hey!"
"All is right with the world."
So... Sheppard is teasing him, but it's normal that Rodney's getting some? Hmmm.

"It was an entire solar system." And Rodney doesn't spit back "it was just five-sixths," because they've obviously had this argument so many times he has just given up.

LOL, McKay and Sheppard fake-laughing at each other as they walk off down the corridor.

DUM DUM DUMMMMM and yes, it seems the Replicators *were* lying last episode when they mentioned oh so casually that Elizabeth had been killed. I thought it was strange that everyone took them at their word. So now not-Elizabeth-with-the-possibility-of-a-kernel-of-Elizabeth-still-inside is back (or still there). Now, which faction is she in charge of?

Next week: Rodney's in trouble on a hive ship! Yay!



So, in summary:

- Episode felt rushed and disjointed; probably better to have spread it out over an arc with other B-plots, set it up over previous weeks by mentioning the urgency of the plan and that the Daedalus and Apollo were on their way over to carry out a coordinated attack, or done it as a two-parter.

- Subtitled, Everybody Dumps On Rodney Day. :( I still feel bad for how Ellis treated him and for the fact that he worked alone almost the whole time, even if Ellis had a point and Rodney may well have pushed help away and deserves to be pushed and pestered with questions because he gets carried away on his own hubris sometimes and leaves out important details about possible dangers in his excitement to prove that his plan will work.

- Metric ton(ne) of sexual innuendo FTW.

- Loved lots of things about Teyla's reveal about her pregnancy—pretty much everything except the fact that Teyla looked close to tears, that she was overruled on her argument that pregnant women shouldn't be treated as invalids, and that nobody told Rodney.

- Liked the uneasy Lantean-Earth-Wraith splinter group-Larrin's people alliance. More of that in the future, plskthnx. Next up, the Genii and Michael.

- Was waiting for a twist with FRAN, especially with an episode title that suggested an epic mistake, but it never came. Oh well, I guess.

The end! *off to read other people's recaps*


Post-ep fic: Negotiating Shadows by aesc

Commentaries: friendshipper, thirdblindmouse

Date: Jan. 5th, 2008 08:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] thedeadparrot.livejournal.com
There's going to be a twist with FRAN. There has to be. I kind of don't want it, but it makes no sense to introduce her only to kill her off. They aren't that bad at storytelling, are they?

Rodney got the crap beat out of him indeed.

Also, I liked the contrast in reactions to Teyla's pregnancy, too. It felt really honest and real, which is not always the case with this show.

Date: Jan. 6th, 2008 03:06 am (UTC)
ext_2047: (Default)
From: [identity profile] bironic.livejournal.com
Yes. And I think, if this had been a two-parter or if the reveal had come as a B or C plot during a regular episode, that they could (and should) have done it in a series of longer scenes where she tells different people, and those people tell other people. Maybe it'll be revisited next week, with Rodney.

I also hope FRAN comes back in some way -- if not as a "we're not dead" resurgence from the wreckage of the planet, then as another experiment on Rodney's part. They still have the table; he may need to make FRAN 2.0 for something, and maybe this time it'll be more ethically messy than he's ready for.

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